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Kevin Landis05 February 2021

Kevin Landis on Technology Investments (Podcast)

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Myth Buster· 1

Myth Buster05:22

Why Markets Are Not Perfectly Efficient

Landis says his early market-research work showed that prestigious financial professionals often lacked basic industry knowledge. Information is unevenly distributed, people are imperfect, and fast change prevents prices from continuously incorporating everything correctly.

  • Professional investors do not possess uniformly perfect information
  • Industry knowledge is unevenly distributed
  • Rapid change keeps markets from reaching stable efficiency
  • Pricing mistakes create opportunities for informed investors

“There's actually a lot of confusion out there, uh, and that information is not really evenly distributed.”

Kevin Landis · 06:05

“markets don't really always have it, have it just right.”

Kevin Landis · 06:26
#market-efficiency#information#investing

Hot Take· 2

Hot Take19:41

Bubbles Are Normal—and Some Failed Experiments Are Worth It

Landis argues that localized bubbles and company failures are permanent features of innovative markets rather than rare anomalies. Excess optimism can cause losses, but experimentation also produces the occasional company that successfully delivers the future its failed peers promised.

  • A little optimism supports innovation
  • Too much optimism produces dangerous valuations
  • Most companies fail without threatening the whole system
  • Successful outliers can justify broad experimentation
  • Investors still face repeated opportunities to hurt themselves

“a little optimism is a great thing u uh and and too much optimism can you can drive right off the road”

Kevin Landis · 19:50

“There are bubbles all the time everywhere”

Kevin Landis · 27:54
#bubbles#innovation#risk#optimism
Hot Take50:27

The Hidden Risk of a Stock Rising Too Fast

Landis says enthusiastic retail traders can harm patient investors even without causing an eventual crash. By driving a good company beyond a defensible valuation, they can pressure disciplined holders to sell and then watch the stock continue climbing without them.

  • Rapid appreciation can break valuation discipline
  • Selling rationally may still create long-term regret
  • Crowd enthusiasm can remove strong holdings from patient portfolios
  • The risk is not limited to an eventual market crash

“I love those guys when they're buying stocks that I already owned.”

Kevin Landis · 51:23

“one one scenario here is that that crowd um takes some of my best stocks out of my hands by making them too expensive.”

Kevin Landis · 52:46
#retail-trading#valuation#behavioral-finance#stocks

Explainer· 3

Explainer15:07

Why SPACs and Direct Listings Pressured the Traditional IPO

Landis views SPACs and direct listings as competitive responses to an onerous traditional IPO process. He argues that alternative routes can lower costs, permit more discussion of future plans, and increasingly use private-investment-in-public-equity commitments to establish a post-listing shareholder base.

  • The traditional S-1 process became costly and difficult
  • Alternative routes allow companies to list earlier
  • SPACs can discuss future plans more freely
  • PIPE financing gives SPAC transactions a book-building function

“I'm a really big fan of competition. I think it really brings out the best in US”

Kevin Landis · 15:47

“the direct listing and and the Spack merger are actually kind of converging on a on a similar UH path.”

Kevin Landis · 18:27
#spacs#direct-listings#ipos#regulation
Explainer23:06

The Overlooked Energy Source Inside Moving Vehicles

Electric drivetrains can recover kinetic energy that conventional vehicles discard as heat during braking. Landis uses a repeatedly stopping garbage truck to illustrate why regenerative braking can remove substantial waste from transportation systems.

  • Conventional braking discards kinetic energy
  • Electric drivetrains can regenerate energy while slowing
  • Stop-and-go heavy vehicles offer especially visible savings
  • Efficiency improvements can contribute to climate goals

“one of the biggest untapped sources of energy out there is the momentum uh in these vehicles.”

Kevin Landis · 24:01

“taking a lot of the waste out of the system and a lot of the wasted energy that's going to get us a long ways…”

Kevin Landis · 24:21
#electric-vehicles#energy#regenerative-braking#climate
Explainer45:43

School Provides More Than Learning—Should Those Functions Stay Bundled?

Landis argues that schools simultaneously provide instruction, social development, childcare, food security, and preparation for independent life. Pandemic disruption created an opportunity to ask which functions belong together, which can move online, and which should be preserved physically.

  • Educational institutions perform several social functions
  • Elementary schools can provide childcare and food security
  • Universities combine instruction with independent living
  • Distance learning exposes previously unquestioned bundles
  • Reform should preserve functions that already work

“there's more than one function going on here.”

Kevin Landis · 46:27

“just which part of this picture needs to be disrupted and rethought and which part of this picture is working just fine and ought to…”

Kevin Landis · 47:00
#education#distance-learning#institutions#pandemic

Story· 2

Story07:52

Starting a Silicon Valley Tech Fund From an Address Book

Landis and his partner saw that Silicon Valley lacked a locally based technology mutual fund run by engineers. Instead of waiting for admission to an established financial circle, they created the fund and raised its first few million dollars from people who already trusted them.

  • No existing club was going to hand them an opportunity
  • They identified an unfilled niche in Silicon Valley
  • Their first capital came from personal relationships
  • The early management fee barely covered daily expenses

“you kind of have to make your own looks and no one's going to hand it to you.”

Kevin Landis · 08:12

“If I don't do this, I'm going to regret it for a really long time.”

Kevin Landis · 08:37
#entrepreneurship#mutual-funds#silicon-valley
Story10:52

How Firsthand Built a Publicly Traded Venture Portfolio

As technology companies delayed going public, much of their early appreciation moved beyond the reach of ordinary mutual funds. Landis used the business-development-company branch of investment law to create a publicly listed vehicle capable of owning venture investments while remaining accessible to ordinary investors.

  • Post-dot-com regulation made public listings more onerous
  • Late IPOs transferred early returns to private investors
  • A business development company could hold venture assets
  • The public structure preserved broad investor access

“I'm here in Silicon Valley making fun of people who failed to revolve, and I'm running a nineteen forty Acts fund.”

Kevin Landis · 12:37

“We wanted the doors open to everybody.”

Kevin Landis · 14:43
#venture-capital#bdc#public-markets#ipos

Takeaway· 3

Takeaway42:05

An Overnight Technology Revolution Can Take a Decade

Landis says major technological changes usually develop through years of incremental adoption before appearing transformative in retrospect. Mobile phones moved from rarity, to a sales tool, to universal communication devices over multiple decades.

  • Important technology shifts often unfold slowly
  • Adoption expands through distinct user groups and use cases
  • Retrospective comparisons make gradual changes look sudden
  • Patience is necessary when evaluating long technological waves

“somebody once called a successful startup company, an overnight success, ten years in the making.”

Kevin Landis · 42:15

“the big, big, important changes they take years to unfold”

Kevin Landis · 42:51
#technology-adoption#innovation#mobile-phones
Takeaway48:10

Remote Work Exposes Output but Loses Creative Collision

Landis sees remote work making individual deliverables more explicit and making nonperformance harder to hide. However, informal interaction also generates ideas and collective creativity, so he expects hybrid schedules to combine focused remote production with in-person collaboration.

  • Remote meetings benefit from explicit deliverables
  • Visible output reduces the value of merely appearing busy
  • Informal conversation can generate creative ideas
  • Fully remote work sacrifices some collaborative spontaneity
  • Hybrid schedules can combine accountability and interaction

“people are focused a lot more now on deliverable.”

Kevin Landis · 48:17

“the people make each other more creative by this sort of relaxed interaction.”

Kevin Landis · 50:01
#remote-work#hybrid-work#productivity#creativity
Takeaway1:03:48

Conventional Wisdom Is Usually Wrong About Something

Landis concludes that disorder and imperfection create room for both entrepreneurs and investors to act. Rather than merely complaining about a broken convention, the useful response is to determine precisely where prevailing belief is wrong and build or invest around the correction.

  • The world is less orderly than it appears
  • Imperfection creates opportunities for improvement
  • Persistent complaints can reveal unmet demand
  • Contrarian insight matters only when followed by action

“the world is a much bigger mess than you realize.”

Kevin Landis · 1:03:48

“Our job is to figure out what they're prevailing with and is wrong about and then act on that.”

Kevin Landis · 1:04:30
#contrarian-thinking#opportunity#entrepreneurship#innovation