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24 May 2019

Thomas Lin Discusses Deep Science (Podcast)

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Myth Buster· 1

Myth Buster32:24

Quantum Physics Is Difficult Even for Experts—but Still Worth Explaining

Lin rejects the idea that quantum physics should be abandoned as inaccessible to lay readers. Even leading physicists lack a complete intuitive understanding, but the subject's difficulty is matched by its importance as an inquiry into reality's deepest layer.

  • Experts do not fully understand every aspect of quantum physics.
  • Difficulty does not eliminate public interest.
  • Quantum physics concerns the most fundamental known layer of reality.
  • Intellectual curiosity is sufficient reason to pursue partial understanding.

“even the foremost experts physicists don't really understand everything about quantum physics”

Thomas Lynn · 32:24

“they're actually some of the most fascinating things that we can think about”

Thomas Lynn · 32:43
#quantum-physics#curiosity#education

Hot Take· 2

Hot Take10:25

Physics Is Advancing Rapidly—and Discovering Its Own Limits

Lin agrees that science is producing extraordinary theories, mathematics, and experiments, but adds that progress is exposing how much remains unknown. Physics is also approaching scales where its theories become increasingly difficult to test experimentally.

  • Scientific knowledge and capability are advancing rapidly.
  • Progress reveals larger areas of ignorance.
  • The largest cosmic structures and smallest quantum interactions strain experimental access.
  • Physics faces internal debate about where its next revolution will come from.

“we are learning more than ever.”

Thomas Lynn · 10:28

“we're also learning how much we don't know”

Thomas Lynn · 10:30
#physics#experiments#cosmology#quantum
Hot Take26:35

Science Discards Bad Ideas; Politics Often Preserves Them

Lin contrasts science's collective method with political behavior. Science ideally tests ideas against evidence and discards failures, while politics can sustain claims without an equivalent correction mechanism, even though individual scientists remain human and political.

  • Science tests ideas against evidence.
  • Failed scientific ideas should be discarded.
  • Political systems often lack comparable evidentiary discipline.
  • Scientists themselves are not separate from society or politics.

“if it's a bad idea, throwing it out right, and if it's a good idea, you keep working on you keep refining it further.”

Thomas Lynn · 26:53

“politics often does not do that.”

Thomas Lynn · 27:28
#science#politics#evidence

Explainer· 6

Explainer12:46

Why Physicists Believe in Dark Matter They Cannot Detect

Lin explains that dark matter and dark energy remain unidentified but are supported by indirect observations. Galaxy movement and the accelerating expansion of the universe indicate that visible matter and energy do not provide a complete account.

  • Dark matter and dark energy are supported by indirect evidence.
  • Modified-gravity alternatives have lost favor as evidence has accumulated.
  • Current instruments cannot directly detect the proposed substances.
  • Galaxy movement and cosmic acceleration require additional explanation.

“most physicists agree that dark matter and dark energy exists, but we just don't know what it is”

Thomas Lynn · 13:06

“there has to be something driving galaxies apart”

Barry Ritholtz · 13:28
#dark-matter#dark-energy#cosmology
Explainer13:43

Why Nonprofit Funding Makes Deep Science Journalism Possible

Quanta's foundation funding supports expensive, time-intensive reporting that commercial publications may struggle to sustain. Editorial independence and free access allow it to cover fundamental science without advertising pressure or paywalls.

  • Deep reporting requires time and resources.
  • Fundamental science may not attract enough advertising revenue.
  • Foundation support can preserve editorial independence.
  • Free access advances the publication's educational mission.

“it is liberating in the sense that we are both editorially independent”

Thomas Lynn · 14:08

“It's very important that's freely accessible.”

Thomas Lynn · 15:07
#nonprofit#media#funding#science
Explainer20:45

The Incentive Trap Keeping Taxpayer-Funded Science Behind Paywalls

Academic publishers profit from publicly funded research and unpaid scholarly labor while universities pay high subscription costs. Researchers nevertheless depend on prestigious journals for tenure and career advancement, making open-access reform an incentive-design problem rather than a simple publishing choice.

  • Much research is funded by taxpayers.
  • Scientists often write and edit journal content without payment.
  • Universities buy expensive access to the resulting publications.
  • Prestige and tenure incentives discourage researchers from leaving established journals.
  • Preprint repositories and open-access publications are developing alternatives.

“what is science for? Who is it for?”

Thomas Lynn · 21:31

“the scientists act the people UH doing the research are put in a tough spot”

Thomas Lynn · 22:51
#open-access#academia#publishing#incentives
Explainer25:03

The Geometric Idea That Could Put Spacetime Beneath a Deeper Reality

Lin recounts Quanta's most popular early story, concerning a geometric method for simplifying particle-interaction calculations. Its wider fascination came from the possibility that gravity and spacetime might emerge from a more fundamental mathematical structure.

  • The geometry simplifies calculations of particle interactions.
  • It extends the simplifying ambition of Feynman diagrams.
  • The proposal might help explain spacetime and gravity as emergent.
  • A highly abstract physics story reached more than a million views.

“spacetime and gravity aren't necessarily the most fundamental aspects of our universe”

Thomas Lynn · 26:09

“there could be things that could lead to a new math”

Thomas Lynn · 26:17
#geometry#spacetime#gravity#particle-physics
Explainer38:38

Why a Black Hole Firewall Might Be Needed to Save Information

Hawking radiation implies that black holes can eventually evaporate, creating a paradox about the quantum information carried by objects that fell inside. The proposed firewall dramatizes the unresolved conflict between quantum mechanics, which preserves information, and general relativity, which predicts an uneventful passage through the event horizon.

  • Black holes absorb matter carrying quantum information.
  • Hawking radiation implies eventual black-hole evaporation.
  • Physics says information cannot simply disappear.
  • A firewall might prevent information from entering the black hole.
  • The paradox exposes conflict between quantum mechanics and general relativity.

“You can't physics says, you can't lose information, and you've got to conserve information.”

Thomas Lynn · 39:32

“we don't yet know how to connect those two things.”

Thomas Lynn · 40:55
#black-holes#quantum-information#relativity#hawking-radiation
Explainer47:33

Could the Big Bang Have Been a Big Bounce?

Lin outlines alternatives to a universe beginning in a single inflationary event. Cyclic and big-bounce models imagine repeated expansion and contraction, potentially addressing difficult questions about what supplied the initial conditions for inflation.

  • Evidence supports something like cosmic inflation.
  • A single Big Bang is not the only proposed model.
  • Cyclic models alternate expansion and contraction.
  • A big bounce could initiate another inflationary period.
  • Existing knowledge cannot yet resolve the universe's initial conditions.

“there are questions as to whether there was really just one Big Bang”

Thomas Lynn · 47:46
#big-bang#cosmology#inflation#big-bounce

Story· 3

Story02:48

How Physics and Literature Led Thomas Lin to Science Journalism

Lin describes an initially unfocused career that combined physics, engineering, teaching, literature, and journalism. The apparent lack of specialization ultimately equipped him to lead a publication translating difficult science for broad audiences.

  • Lin studied both physics and literature.
  • He initially worked as an engineer and later taught.
  • The events of 9/11 helped motivate his move into journalism.
  • His mixed technical and humanistic background became an editorial advantage.

“I sort of fell into it.”

Thomas Lynn · 02:52

“eventually backed my way into science journalism.”

Thomas Lynn · 03:26
#career#journalism#physics#education
Story05:01

Building Digital Journalism During the Web's Early Newsroom Shift

Lin recalls joining The New York Times as digital tools were changing how news could be delivered. Hurricane Katrina demonstrated the web's ability to provide immediate visual reporting that a daily printed newspaper could not match.

  • The Times invested early in online journalism.
  • Digital work explored more than simply reproducing print.
  • Interactive graphics expanded explanatory possibilities.
  • Katrina coverage showed the importance of immediate online imagery.

“a lot of things were just changing.”

Thomas Lynn · 05:33

“that's not something you can get through a daily newspaper.”

Thomas Lynn · 06:35
#journalism#digital-media#new-york-times
Story48:35

Crossing America by Bicycle With Everything Packed on Two Wheels

At age 20, Lin and a college friend rode roughly 4,000 miles from Oregon to New York over two months. They carried tents, sleeping bags, cooking equipment, clothing, and food while following the TransAmerica route across the Rockies and plains.

  • The journey took about two months.
  • Each rider carried roughly 50 to 60 pounds of equipment.
  • The route crossed the Continental Divide about nine times.
  • They traveled before smartphones and modern GPS navigation.

“when I was twenty, I wrote a bicycle across the United States of America.”

Thomas Lynn · 48:47

“We crossed the Continental Divide like nine times”

Thomas Lynn · 50:27
#cycling#adventure#travel

Q&A· 1

Q&A37:16

Is Mathematics Invented, Discovered, or Both?

Pure mathematics builds a logical universe without necessarily attempting to map physical reality. Yet abstract structures repeatedly become useful in physics and other sciences, sustaining the mystery of why mathematics describes the world so effectively.

  • Pure mathematics can develop independently of physical application.
  • Mathematicians extend a logical universe through abstraction.
  • Abstract mathematics often later becomes scientifically useful.
  • Its effectiveness raises a persistent philosophical question.

“Is math invented or discovered?”

Thomas Lynn · 37:25

“Why does it work?”

Thomas Lynn · 38:03
#mathematics#philosophy#physics

Takeaway· 2

Takeaway27:42

Scientific Literacy Protects Both Democracy and Personal Decisions

Scientific thinking helps citizens evaluate policies that depend on factual claims and creates common ground across ideological disagreements. Lin also argues that it benefits individuals by reducing vulnerability to scams and improving career and life decisions.

  • Many civic decisions contain a scientific component.
  • Shared respect for facts enables productive disagreement.
  • Scientific thinking can reduce susceptibility to scams.
  • Evidence-based reasoning can improve personal choices.

“science is the best way for understanding reality”

Thomas Lynn · 27:55

“you at least agree that facts are facts.”

Thomas Lynn · 28:30
#science-literacy#decision-making#democracy#scams
Takeaway54:27

If the Institution You Need Does Not Exist, Build It

Reflecting on founding Quanta, Lin says it is liberating to discover that a small group can create a missing institution and produce meaningful impact. The required ingredients are ambition, confidence, continuous learning, sustained effort, and willingness to make something society deserves.

  • Existing institutions do not define the limit of what can be created.
  • Building something new requires confidence and effort.
  • Learning must continue throughout the process.
  • A mission can justify creating a publication or company that does not yet exist.

“knowing what you can build and the impact that you can create even when something doesn't currently exist”

Thomas Lynn · 54:51

“go out and make the things that you think the world deserves.”

Thomas Lynn · 55:19
#entrepreneurship#confidence#institution-building#impact