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Scott Sperling21 May 2021

Scott Sperling on Innovative Investment Strategies (Podcast)

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Myth Buster· 2

Myth Buster25:52

Why Automation May Fill Labor Gaps Rather Than Eliminate Work

Sperling rejects the simplistic prediction that automation necessarily creates mass unemployment. He presents it as a response to labor shortages that can absorb mundane work, improve productivity, and allow employees to move into higher-value roles.

  • Labor shortages create demand for automation
  • Mundane tasks are particularly suitable for automation
  • Employees can be retrained for higher-value work
  • Productivity gains can support higher compensation
  • Automation is expanding beyond factories and warehouses

“to automate jobs that are more mundane and allow employees to be really focused on the higher value aspects of their of the tasks at…”

Scott Sperling · 26:27

“Automation again is going to be able to fill in for the jobs that um, you know, people really don't want to do”

Scott Sperling · 28:10
#automation#labor#productivity#employment
Myth Buster44:09

Why Sperling Separates Blockchain From Cryptocurrency

Sperling sees blockchain as a potentially useful technology for improving financial-service processes but treats cryptocurrency as a separate investment category. THL had relevant experience in financial technology, while cryptocurrency did not fit its traditional strengths.

  • Blockchain can support operational improvements in financial services
  • Blockchain and cryptocurrency should not be treated as identical categories
  • Relevant domain expertise influences where an investor participates
  • Observing rapid valuation growth is not the same as having an informed investment view

“I would separate blockchain from cryptocurrencies like bitcoin, even though they're often put in the same category.”

Scott Sperling · 45:17

“We have not really focused upon the cryptocurrency side. It's not it's not in an area that that we have any traditional strength.”

Scott Sperling · 45:24
#blockchain#cryptocurrency#fintech#bitcoin

Explainer· 6

Explainer18:43

Why Rising Interest Rates Can Compress Acquisition Multiples

Sperling argues that higher borrowing costs do not affect private equity in isolation. Because the cost of capital influences the price buyers can afford, rising base rates tend to produce contraction in both public-market and buyout multiples.

  • Cheap debt supports higher absolute market valuations
  • The affordable acquisition multiple is linked to the cost of capital
  • Higher base rates can lead to multiple contraction
  • Public-market repricing flows through to buyout transactions

“there's a clear relationship between you know, the cost of capital and the multiple you can afford to pay for a company.”

Scott Sperling · 19:16

“if the base rate increases that you're going to see some contraction in market multiples”

Scott Sperling · 20:01
#interest-rates#valuation#debt#private-equity
Explainer29:22

Why mRNA Is a Platform, Not Just a COVID Vaccine

Sperling views the rapid creation of effective COVID-19 vaccines as evidence of a broader healthcare opportunity. He emphasizes that mRNA can support future vaccines and therapeutics, including potential applications in cancer and rare diseases.

  • COVID-19 demonstrated unusually rapid product development
  • mRNA is reusable across multiple medical applications
  • The platform may support both vaccines and therapeutics
  • New scientific tools are accelerating diagnostics and drug development

“that's not just a single product, but that is a platform”

Scott Sperling · 29:55

“one more tool against cancer and other rare diseases.”

Scott Sperling · 30:12
#mrna#vaccines#healthcare#biotech
Explainer31:16

The Investment Opportunity Supporting Pharma’s Scientific Core

Biotechnology companies with innovative science need outside capabilities to run trials, commercialize products, and provide specialized services. Sperling argues that this support ecosystem lets scientific teams concentrate their energy on discovery while creating a broad investment opportunity.

  • Contract research organizations can outsource clinical trials
  • Specialists can support products, services, salesforces, and selling strategies
  • External services let biotech teams focus on innovative science
  • Healthcare support industries benefit from expanding therapeutic development

“There are entire industries that have been set up to support the companies that have the innovative science”

Scott Sperling · 31:20

“help these companies do all of that while allowed them allowing them to focus all their energy on the innovative science.”

Scott Sperling · 32:07
#pharma#biotech#clinical-trials#healthcare-services
Explainer35:14

Why Hospital Outcome Comparisons Can Mislead

Uniform healthcare measurement is difficult because patients with nominally similar conditions can differ substantially in acuity and comorbidities. Leading hospitals also receive disproportionately complex cases, making raw outcome comparisons between providers unreliable.

  • Disease states and patient conditions can be highly complex
  • The hardest cases flow toward elite clinical institutions
  • Similar diagnostic labels may conceal different levels of acuity
  • Primary and secondary care are easier to compare than tertiary and quaternary care
  • Better measurement must account for patient complexity

“the complexity of disease states the nature of patient condition is so complicated that at the very high end, which is where much of the…”

Scott Sperling · 35:36

“the most difficult cases will flow to the highest end providers”

Scott Sperling · 36:00
#healthcare#outcomes#hospitals#measurement
Explainer46:22

The Data Divide Between Venture Capital and Buyouts

Young technologies force venture investors to make broad bets without precise medium-term forecasts. Buyout and growth-equity investors instead seek companies with enough operating evidence to support detailed three-to-five-year projections.

  • Venture investments often lack forecast precision
  • New technologies can have extremely wide outcome ranges
  • Buyout investors seek sufficient operating data
  • The first three years receive especially detailed analysis
  • Competitive position and market conditions anchor projections

“on the venture side, when you're investing in very young technologies, new technologies, you know you are making a very broad based bet without the…”

Scott Sperling · 46:34

“What we're trying to do on our side is invest in companies where we think we have enough data to have a reasonably high probability…”

Scott Sperling · 46:56
#venture-capital#buyouts#forecasting#risk
Explainer49:18

How Private-Equity Deals Shifted From GP Clubs to LP Co-Investment

Large historical buyouts often required multiple private-equity firms to pool capital in club deals. As limited partners became more willing to co-invest directly, transactions increasingly moved toward a single sponsor supported by its LPs, although very large deals may revive the club structure.

  • Older large transactions often required multiple general partners
  • Limited partners increasingly provide direct co-investment capital
  • Single-GP deals can reduce coordination complexity
  • Co-investment can offer LPs different fee economics
  • Extremely large transactions may bring club deals back

“Today we're in the world where we have just some phenomenal limited partners who are anxious to be co investors in transactions.”

Scott Sperling · 49:41

“I think we may be seen to come back of the so called club deal uh, where you club together uh two or more general…”

Scott Sperling · 51:25
#co-investment#limited-partners#club-deals#private-equity

Story· 3

Story04:04

How Harvard’s Endowment Made an Early Move Into Alternatives

Walter Cabot recruited Sperling for his business-analytics background rather than a conventional investment-management résumé. Harvard then expanded from a traditional stock-and-bond allocation into venture capital, buyouts, real estate, oil and gas, and timber.

  • Harvard Management Company operated separately under Cabot’s leadership
  • The endowment sought higher risk-adjusted returns outside traditional assets
  • Sperling began with venture capital before expanding into buyouts and co-investing
  • Alternative investments grew from almost nothing during his eleven-year tenure

“rather than bringing somebody in with the typical investment management background, they want somebody with more of a business analytics background.”

Scott Sperling · 04:43

“we opened up activities in what in those days we thought of private equity, mostly as venture capital, but then moved into the buy out…”

Scott Sperling · 05:16
#endowments#alternatives#harvard#private-equity
Story06:14

When Ivy League Endowments Collaborated Instead of Competing

Sperling describes the early alternative-investment community among Ivy League endowments as collegial. Harvard and Yale cooperated on opportunities, including oil and gas investments, while both institutions expanded into venture capital and buyouts.

  • The early relationship between endowments was more collaborative than competitive
  • Harvard and Yale pursued similar alternative-asset strategies
  • Early success and institutional support encouraged broader adoption
  • Other Ivy League endowments followed Harvard and Yale into alternatives

“I would say it was more collegial in those days.”

Scott Sperling · 06:31

“We worked together are on a number of oil and gas opportunities, so there was a level of cooperation that underlined a lot of what…”

Scott Sperling · 06:56
#endowments#harvard#yale#collaboration
Story40:15

The COVID Distress Window That Vanished Almost Immediately

Sperling was more surprised by the speed of the market recovery than by the initial collapse. Extraordinary monetary and fiscal support created a sharp V-shaped rebound, causing conventional distressed opportunities to disappear almost as soon as they emerged.

  • The shutdown made the initial market collapse understandable
  • The speed of the recovery surprised experienced investors
  • Monetary and fiscal support exceeded expectations
  • The distressed-investing window was exceptionally brief

“I was less surprised by the nature of the collapse, given the fact that we had this unprecedented shut down to our economy, uh, and…”

Scott Sperling · 40:33

“I would say distressed opportunities were here and then gone in about a nine a second.”

Scott Sperling · 41:23
#covid-19#markets#distressed-investing#recovery

Takeaway· 4

Takeaway13:59

Why THL’s Co-CEO Structure Worked for More Than 20 Years

Sperling says shared leadership works when the two executives bring complementary talents. The arrangement gives each leader a trusted partner while allowing them to divide the firm’s broad responsibilities.

  • Complementary capabilities matter more than duplicated authority
  • Shared leadership provides a sounding board for difficult decisions
  • A broad task set can be divided between accountable partners

“I think we try to bring together talents that are complementary”

Scott Sperling · 14:13

“it's always nice to have a partner to talk to, divide and conquer, makes it makes a lot of sense.”

Scott Sperling · 14:21
#leadership#co-ceo#partnership
Takeaway52:18

Why Strategic LP Relationships Let Funds Stay Disciplined

Co-investment relationships allow private-equity firms to keep flagship funds appropriately sized while still pursuing larger transactions. Limited partners gain broader participation and may avoid some of the economics charged on their primary fund commitments.

  • Fund size should reflect a disciplined pace of investing
  • LP capital can scale individual transactions when needed
  • Strategic LP relationships benefit both sponsors and investors
  • Direct co-investments can carry lower fees and profit participation

“It allows you to size your fund in ways. UM. They give you a reasonably high level of assurance that you can maintain the disciplines”

Scott Sperling · 52:42

“It's a way of participating more broadly in private equity where you're not um uh necessarily paying the same kind of fees”

Scott Sperling · 53:27
#limited-partners#fund-sizing#co-investment#fees
Takeaway1:03:37

Don’t Enter Private Equity Unless You Want to Build Businesses

Sperling advises graduates to choose private equity for the work of improving enterprises, not merely for financial rewards. The industry is most fulfilling for people who want to partner with management teams and make companies better.

  • Private equity is not simply a financial career
  • The work involves helping companies improve
  • Management teams should be treated as genuine partners
  • People motivated only by compensation may find easier alternatives

“try to get involved in it if you really fundamentally love building businesses.”

Scott Sperling · 1:03:50

“I really do think our industry is about helping make companies better”

Scott Sperling · 1:04:04
#career-advice#private-equity#business-building#management
Takeaway1:04:54

The Downside Can Be Worse—and the Upside Bigger—Than You Imagine

After decades in investing, Sperling learned that apparently limited downside can still become dramatically worse. The reverse is also true: investors must analytically imagine unconventional upside rather than remaining trapped by consensus expectations.

  • Downside estimates frequently understate what can go wrong
  • Outcome distributions can be more extreme than expected
  • Upside imagination still needs an analytical foundation
  • Conventional thought can conceal major opportunities

“Things can always be dramatically worse than you might ever anticipate.”

Scott Sperling · 1:05:21

“understanding that the range of outcomes can be much more extreme than you think, UH is something that that you learned over time.”

Scott Sperling · 1:05:43
#risk#uncertainty#investing#mindset