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Katie Stockton08 September 2017

Katie Stockton Started with Technicals in College

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Myth Buster· 2

Myth Buster16:42

Technical Analysis Is Not a Crystal Ball

Stockton rejects the idea that charting exists primarily to forecast exact future prices. She presents it as objective price-based analysis that can quickly surface trends, momentum, relative strength, and risk levels while helping investors remain less emotionally committed to positions.

  • Charting is not designed to predict every future price
  • Price-based analysis can be applied rapidly across securities
  • Limited narrative investment reduces attachment to positions
  • The strongest setups can combine technical and fundamental evidence

“the misconceptions would be that we're trying to you know, take historical prices and always you know, predict something that it's overly predictive”

Katie Stockton · 17:13

“I think you're less likely to get married to that position.”

Katie Stockton · 18:11
#technical analysis#objectivity#risk management#behavioral finance
Myth Buster49:27

A Good Investment Story Can Make You Ignore the Evidence

Stockton distinguishes durable fundamental drivers from headlines, hearsay, and anecdotal explanations. Charts help isolate actual supply-and-demand behavior so investors can test whether an appealing narrative is being confirmed by price rather than becoming committed to the story.

  • Fundamental reasons can genuinely drive long-term trends
  • Headlines and anecdotes can distort judgment
  • Price offers an independent check on the narrative
  • Charts help investors stay honest when stories become persuasive

“they sort of isolate exactly what is happening from a supply demand perspective without getting tainted by the stories.”

Katie Stockton · 49:38

“when it comes to just headlines and hearsay and anecdotal evidence of something, I think it can be very dangerous.”

Katie Stockton · 50:09
#narratives#behavioral finance#price action#investing

Hot Take· 2

Hot Take06:41

Why Headline Trading Volume Lost Predictive Value

Stockton argues that aggregate volume became less useful as derivatives, passive investing, and high-frequency trading changed its composition. She questions whether observed transactions represent committed buyers and sellers, although she still finds volume spikes informative during emotionally charged extremes.

  • Overall volume had declined since roughly 2007
  • Derivatives and passive flows complicate interpretation
  • High-frequency trades may not represent durable conviction
  • Volume spikes can still reveal emotionally charged trading

“you can't really understand if the volume is real these days.”

Katie Stockton · 07:53

“when it tends to spike is when it actually holds information, because that's more emotionally charged trading”

Katie Stockton · 39:02
#volume#market structure#passive investing#high-frequency trading
Hot Take19:09

Software and AI Are Making Technical Analysis More Systematic

Stockton contrasts hand-charting early in her career with modern software that draws charts, filters large universes, and identifies patterns automatically. She expects technical analysis to become more quantitative and systematic because many indicators are programmable and price-based.

  • Stockton began by hand-charting point-and-figure charts
  • Modern tools expand charting and screening capacity
  • Software can filter for setups and recognize patterns
  • Price-based indicators fit quantitative and AI-driven approaches
  • Risk management is a major opportunity for systematic application

“my first job out of college was actually hand charting these point figure charts that you describe.”

Katie Stockton · 19:27

“anything that you can program, of which a lot of indicators are very programmable, I think there's a lot of upside there.”

Katie Stockton · 20:24
#ai#quantitative analysis#charting software#automation

Explainer· 3

Explainer05:11

Why Katie Stockton Analyzes a Stock as a Stock

Stockton says technical analysis isolates the behavior of a security from the company narrative attached to it. Market-wide forces can move an individual stock in ways that appear irrational from a purely fundamental perspective, while price reveals the resulting supply-and-demand relationship.

  • Market forces can overwhelm company-specific fundamentals
  • Price reflects the supply-and-demand outcome
  • Technical analysis can explain what the security itself is doing
  • The discipline complements rather than replaces fundamental research

“it really resonates with me in terms of analyzing a stock as a stock, not just as representative of a company”

Katie Stockton · 05:14

“I think of technical analysis as really a complementary discipline”

Katie Stockton · 06:07
#technical analysis#supply and demand#fundamentals
Explainer15:34

Point-and-Figure Charts Remove Time and Volume

Point-and-figure charts use grids of Xs and Os rather than conventional bars and do not represent time in the usual way. Stockton says they distill price movement into buying and selling behavior, making them useful for following trends and detecting breakouts or breakdowns.

  • The chart resembles a grid of Xs and Os
  • Time is not represented like it is on a bar chart
  • Volume is omitted
  • Plots appear only after price moves enough
  • The format highlights trends, breakouts, and breakdowns

“it looks almost like a tic tac toe sheet with x's nose”

Katie Stockton · 15:48

“no volume, no time, just buying and selling.”

Barry Ritholtz · 16:26
#point and figure#charting#breakouts#price action
Explainer41:39

Why Fixed VIX Extremes Stop Working

Stockton treats the VIX primarily as one sentiment gauge with an inverse relationship to the S&P 500. Persistently lower readings require analysts to reset what counts as extreme, and short-lived spikes demand rapid action rather than assumptions that the VIX behaves like an ordinary trending asset.

  • The VIX is one sentiment input rather than a complete signal
  • Persistent new lows can invalidate old extreme thresholds
  • VIX spikes may last only about two weeks
  • Moving-average signals require caution because the VIX is not strongly trending
  • A spike may accompany an S&P 500 pullback toward its fifty-day average

“what we've had to do with the the fact that it keeps making new loads, is to reset our extreme levels or thresholds for that…”

Katie Stockton · 42:39

“The spikes tend to last maybe two weeks in duration at most, so you have to be very quick to act on it”

Katie Stockton · 43:13
#vix#volatility#sentiment#sp500

Q&A· 1

Q&A1:01:37

Learn Technical Analysis, but Build a Broader Career

Stockton cautions that pure publishing roles in technical analysis are scarce even though the discipline is valuable across finance. She recommends learning it through the CMT while developing a wider professional scope and understanding how one's role fits into the surrounding firm.

  • Pure technical-strategist jobs are limited
  • Technical analysis remains useful in many other finance roles
  • The CMT provides structured education and credibility
  • Pairing technical study with a broader qualification can widen opportunities
  • Young professionals should understand how the whole firm operates

“I don't know that there's a lot of job opportunity in technical analysis. As a purist”

Katie Stockton · 1:01:48

“I think as a discipline something that that you should learn UM as one part of a bigger picture”

Katie Stockton · 1:02:06
#career advice#cmt#finance careers#professional development

Tool· 1

Tool45:20

Why Stockton Prefers the CNN Fear and Greed Index

Stockton favors the composite index because it combines volatility, options, credit, safe-haven demand, momentum, and breadth rather than relying on a single sentiment series. She finds this checks-and-balances structure more useful at identifying market tops than traditional polls and surveys.

  • Components include the VIX and put-call ratios
  • Credit and safe-haven demand contribute transactional evidence
  • Momentum and breadth add market confirmation
  • Composite construction limits dependence on one unstable input
  • The measure may lead a short-term market peak by several weeks

“taken together, I think you're actually getting a nice system of checks and balances.”

Katie Stockton · 46:55

“the CNN Fair Agreed Index, tends to be a bit better at market tops.”

Katie Stockton · 47:31
#fear and greed#sentiment#vix#market breadth#put-call ratio

Takeaway· 1

Takeaway12:51

Start Technical Analysis with Support and Resistance

Stockton calls support and resistance the most important introductory chart concepts because they create an immediate gauge of risk and reward. Fibonacci ratios can help locate these levels when traditional references such as prior peaks, troughs, or moving averages are unavailable.

  • Support and resistance frame risk and reward
  • Prior peaks and troughs provide traditional reference levels
  • Moving averages can act as widely watched support or resistance
  • Fibonacci ratios are useful when conventional levels are absent

“support and resistance should be where you start, because that's your gauge of risk and reward.”

Katie Stockton · 13:04

“it can be really helpful when you don't have more traditional means of deriving support and resistance.”

Katie Stockton · 13:48
#support#resistance#fibonacci#risk reward