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19 December 2025

Finding Value Investments with Patient Capital's Samantha McLemore

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Myth Buster· 1

Myth Buster33:27

Why Today's AI Buildout Is Not a Replay of the Dot-Com Bubble

McLemore acknowledges that overall market valuations resemble late-1990s levels, but argues that the underlying businesses differ sharply. Today's hyperscalers are profitable, cash-generative, well-capitalized, and building infrastructure to meet existing demand rather than speculative future demand financed by debt.

  • Market-wide multiples are historically elevated
  • Dot-com technology valuations were much higher
  • Many 1990s companies lost money and relied on debt
  • Current AI infrastructure faces unmet existing demand
  • Hyperscalers have strong balance sheets and cash flows
  • Market participation is less narrowly concentrated than at the 2000 peak

“They can't meet the demand that already exists. That's a very different situation.”

Samantha McLemore · 34:49

“the hyperscalers are extremely well capitalized, with great balance sheets, high free cash flow margins”

Samantha McLemore · 35:04
#ai#dot-com-bubble#hyperscalers#valuation

Hot Take· 2

Hot Take24:49

AI Could Transform Society While Disrupting Junior White-Collar Work

McLemore regards AI as a foundational transformation but is uncertain about its timing and exact effects. She notes that adoption is already reducing junior hiring and highlights forecasts of sharply higher white-collar unemployment, making career advice for young people unusually difficult.

  • Knowledgeable technologists broadly describe AI as transformational
  • AI adoption is already affecting junior hiring
  • White-collar unemployment could rise significantly
  • Young workers need strategies for competing with software

“there's clearly an impact on junior hires.”

Samantha McLemore · 28:06

“what do you advise young people to do?”

Samantha McLemore · 28:32
#ai#employment#careers#automation
Hot Take38:51

When Everyone Fears a Bubble, the Bubble May Be Less Likely

Drawing on Howard Marks, McLemore argues that bubbles require psychological extremity. Widespread fear and constant bubble warnings can restrain positioning and valuations because recognized risks are managed rather than ignored.

  • Psychological extremity is central to bubbles
  • Visible risks affect investor positioning
  • Constant warnings can suppress valuation excess
  • The largest risks often emerge outside the market's focus

“a bubble is characterized by psychological extremness”

Samantha McLemore · 39:28

“when everyone's worried about a bubble, it's likely not a bubble.”

Samantha McLemore · 40:51
#bubbles#sentiment#contrarian-investing#risk

Explainer· 1

Explainer16:42

How a Value Investor Reached a $1.4 Million Bitcoin Thesis

After initially dismissing Bitcoin and urging Miller to reduce exposure, McLemore reconsidered as it repeatedly recovered from crashes and attracted institutional attention. She began treating it as digital gold and compared its potential market capitalization with gold, producing a long-term value estimate of roughly $1.3 million to $1.4 million per coin.

  • Repeated recoveries changed her probability assessment
  • Institutional adoption strengthened the digital-gold case
  • Gold's market capitalization supplied a valuation reference
  • Younger investors' preference for digital assets supported the thesis

“I bought it in the fund there on the belief that it was digital gold, which I could actually analyze.”

Samantha McLemore · 18:07

“bitcoin could be worth one point three to one point four million dollars to share or a coin sometime in the future.”

Samantha McLemore · 18:23
#bitcoin#digital-gold#valuation#crypto

Story· 4

Story03:38

The Resume Request That Launched McLemore's Investing Career

McLemore entered a difficult post-dot-com job market expecting to pursue investment banking. When Bill Miller visited Washington and Lee, she directly asked whether she could send him her résumé and became his junior analyst—apparently as the only student who made the request.

  • She joined Legg Mason directly after college
  • The opportunity began with a direct request
  • Other students assumed investment management was inaccessible
  • Initiative overcame a weak job market

“I like to say I won the job lottery”

Samantha McLemore · 03:43

“I think I was the only the only one that sent.”

Samantha McLemore · 04:50
#career#initiative#mentorship
Story05:28

Inside Samantha McLemore's 20-Year Apprenticeship With Bill Miller

McLemore describes investment management as an apprenticeship business. Sitting beside Miller gave her direct exposure to his teaching, Bloomberg analysis, company meetings, and executives such as Jeff Bezos early in Amazon's development.

  • Her desk was positioned beside Miller's
  • Miller actively taught through live market analysis
  • She attended meetings with prominent CEOs
  • Early exposure shaped her investment thinking

“I think it's an apprenticeship business.”

Samantha McLemore · 05:46

“my desk was always right beside Bills, and he liked to teach”

Samantha McLemore · 05:46
#mentorship#investing#career
Story13:00

Launching Patient Capital Into the COVID Shock

McLemore wanted an independent track record and an institutional business while Miller preferred not to expand. After managing some of his personal capital successfully, she structured a private fund and launched it in 2020, just as the pandemic disrupted markets.

  • Miller provided personal capital for an independent track record
  • McLemore saw demand for women-led investment firms
  • The business adopted a private-fund structure
  • The launch coincided with COVID market turmoil

“I was also interested in developing my own independent track record.”

Samantha McLemore · 13:17

“we actually launched it in twenty twenty right in COVID, which was not the best time.”

Samantha McLemore · 14:14
#entrepreneurship#asset-management#women-in-finance
Story18:43

The Foreclosure Auction That Turned an Investor Into an Inn Owner

After the financial crisis and the birth of her first daughter, McLemore questioned her career intensity and bid on a foreclosed Vermont inn. Her family reopened it before ski season, but managing an absentee hospitality operation demonstrated that its limited upside did not justify the workload.

  • She valued the property before attending the auction
  • A second bid unexpectedly won the inn
  • Family members helped reopen it before the holidays
  • The business made money but offered poor returns on effort

“I like markets. I can sit at my desk and make a lot of money doing very little”

Samantha McLemore · 21:22

“it was a lot of work for you know how much you could make.”

Samantha McLemore · 21:44
#entrepreneurship#hospitality#career#lessons

Tool· 1

Tool31:49

ChatGPT Built Patient Capital's Profit-Sharing Plan in an Hour

McLemore used an iterative conversation with ChatGPT to design a profit-sharing plan that her busy team had not completed. She refined the model repeatedly, sent the result to lawyers, and says it required no changes, illustrating how small firms can complete specialized work quickly with AI assistance.

  • The process took roughly one hour
  • Iterative feedback refined the plan
  • Lawyers reviewed the final output
  • The document reportedly needed no revisions
  • Patient Capital is also experimenting with agents and specialized tools

“I used one to create a profit sharing plan”

Samantha McLemore · 32:27

“I sent it to the lawyers and it was good to go. I mean, it was good. It needed no changes.”

Samantha McLemore · 32:39
#chatgpt#small-business#productivity#automation

Takeaway· 3

Takeaway28:59

The Human Skills McLemore Thinks AI Still Cannot Replace

McLemore identifies complex problem-solving, creativity, critical thinking, and real-world verification as current model weaknesses. People who can challenge hallucinations, select appropriate models, check facts, and solve novel physical-world problems may retain an advantage.

  • Models remain weak at complex problem-solving
  • Creativity and novel ideas remain uncertain frontiers
  • Fact-checking is necessary because models hallucinate
  • Model selection and critical evaluation are valuable skills
  • Real-world problem-solving remains distinctly useful

“what the models aren't good at, which I thought was really interesting, is complex problem solving and creativity.”

Samantha McLemore · 29:03

“having someone who knows how to check facts, use different models in different situations, you know, that's going to be very valuable.”

Samantha McLemore · 29:49
#ai#skills#creativity#critical-thinking
Takeaway46:32

Why Deliberate Discomfort Can Produce Growth

McLemore recommends The Comfort Crisis and its discussion of misogi, a deliberately difficult challenge with a meaningful chance of failure. She does not endorse dangerous extremes, but believes discomfort, pain, and difficult responsibility create opportunities for growth.

  • Modern life heavily prioritizes comfort
  • Misogi involves a demanding challenge with a real failure risk
  • Difficulty can expand capability and resilience
  • Leadership often brings pain and hard problems rather than glory

“exposing yourself to things out of your comfort zone where you have the opportunity to grow and have some pain”

Samantha McLemore · 47:42

“the experience is not power and glory it's pain and suffering”

Samantha McLemore · 47:34
#discomfort#growth#resilience#books
Takeaway48:01

Why Three Follow-Ups Can Beat Hundreds of Résumés

McLemore advises graduates to pursue desired roles persistently rather than mass-submitting generic applications. Candidates distinguish themselves by following instructions, researching the firm and interviewer, demonstrating genuine interest, and following up repeatedly.

  • Follow the employer's application instructions precisely
  • Avoid generic high-volume résumé blasts
  • Research the firm and the person conducting the interview
  • Demonstrate interest through thoughtful follow-up
  • Persistence is unusually differentiating in a difficult job market

“go for it and be persistent.”

Samantha McLemore · 48:06

“it's easier than you think to distinguish yourself if you're actually interested in something”

Samantha McLemore · 48:43
#job-search#careers#persistence#graduates