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Danny Blanchflower09 August 2019

Danny Blanchflower Discusses Labor Economics (Podcast)

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Myth Buster· 3

Myth Buster18:40

Productivity Data Miss Both Digital Output and Always-On Labor

The speakers question whether standard productivity measures capture modern service work. Digital tools may dramatically expand output, while email, Slack, and irregular workdays make labor hours harder to measure, creating uncertainty in both the numerator and denominator.

  • Productivity divides measured output by labor input
  • Digital service output can be difficult to value
  • Modern work extends beyond recorded office hours
  • Weak wages may reflect distribution rather than absent productivity gains

“productivity is just output divided by people or ours or something.”

Danny Blanchflower · 19:58

“not only is there a problem measuring the output, there's a problem of measuring the labor input.”

Danny Blanchflower · 20:36
#productivity#measurement#digital work#wages
Myth Buster21:25

The Gig Economy May Be Disguised Unemployment

Blanchflower challenges the idea that rising self-employment necessarily reflects entrepreneurial opportunity. Some people become nominally self-employed after layoffs, earn less in real terms, and cannot obtain enough hours, making gig work a marker of labor fragility.

  • Gig-economy estimates depend heavily on definitions
  • UK self-employment rose while real earnings fell
  • Layoffs can turn employees into reluctant consultants
  • Insufficient hours are central to job fragility

“this is about fragile work.”

Danny Blanchflower · 22:26

“Many of these people can't get enough hours.”

Danny Blanchflower · 22:28
#gig economy#self-employment#fragile work#earnings
Myth Buster37:29

Children Do Not Cause Unhappiness—Their Costs Can

Survey results appeared to show that children reduce happiness, but Blanchflower describes research controlling for difficulty paying household bills. Once financial strain was included, the relationship reversed, suggesting that parenting costs rather than children themselves explained the negative result.

  • Raw survey data associated children with lower happiness
  • Raising children creates substantial childcare and household costs
  • Financial difficulty confounded the apparent relationship
  • Controlling for bill stress reversed the result

“it appears in the data that children make you unhappy.”

Danny Blanchflower · 37:39

“once you control for the fact that having kids is really expensive”

Danny Blanchflower · 38:09
#parenting#happiness#childcare#research methods

Hot Take· 2

Hot Take09:00

How UK Austerity Flattened the Recovery and Fueled Brexit

Blanchflower argues that the UK recovery was progressing until austerity arrived in 2010 and flattened major economic data series. He connects weak growth and stagnant real wages in hard-hit towns directly to support for Brexit.

  • Fiscal retrenchment began before the recovery was secure
  • Private investment did not replace withdrawn public spending
  • Real wages remained weak
  • The most economically damaged towns became Brexit strongholds

“every data series you can show in the UK just turned flat.”

Danny Blanchflower · 09:52

“Brexit is directly attributable to the failures brought about by reckless, failed austerity.”

Danny Blanchflower · 10:55
#austerity#brexit#fiscal policy#uk economy
Hot Take42:43

Raising Rates to Prepare for a Recession Can Trigger One

Blanchflower rejects normalization as sufficient justification for tighter monetary policy. When the shock is larger and labor slack deeper than policymakers estimate, raising rates to create future policy room can itself cause the downturn officials hope to fight.

  • Normalization does not determine the correct timing
  • Policymakers may underestimate the original shock
  • Hidden labor slack increases the cost of premature tightening
  • An early rate cut may carry less risk than waiting for recession

“That doesn't tell you when to normalize.”

Danny Blanchflower · 44:07

“But by raising rates you cause the recession.”

Danny Blanchflower · 44:22
#interest rates#federal reserve#recession#monetary policy

Explainer· 6

Explainer13:43

Why Physical Pain Became an American Labor-Market Signal

Blanchflower describes survey and medical evidence showing unusually high reports of pain in the United States. He links pain, stress, opioids, anxiety, suicide, and liver disease to economic insecurity and the deterioration of good jobs, especially among less-educated prime-age white Americans.

  • Americans report pain at unusually high rates
  • Chronic pain appears in a large share of primary-care visits
  • Stress can magnify perceived physical ailments
  • Pain and opioid use rose together
  • Less-educated groups experienced falling happiness and deaths of despair

“Americans are twice as likely to say they're in pain than other places I know.”

Danny Blanchflower · 14:10

“around the world we see arise in sort of isolation, loneliness, anxiety, depression.”

Danny Blanchflower · 15:59
#chronic pain#opioids#deaths of despair#job insecurity
Explainer16:47

Why Rising Wealth Does Not Guarantee Rising Happiness

Blanchflower says happiness depends heavily on relative position rather than absolute consumption alone. Social media and widening income and wealth inequality make comparisons more visible, so an individual's gain can feel smaller when peers appear to gain more.

  • People evaluate themselves relative to others
  • Social media increases opportunities for comparison
  • Income and wealth inequality widen perceived status gaps
  • Private consumption gains may not improve aggregate happiness

“People compare themselves to others.”

Danny Blanchflower · 17:27

“Perhaps with social media it's easier to compare yourself to others”

Danny Blanchflower · 18:01
#happiness#inequality#social comparison#behavioral economics
Explainer32:15

How US Healthcare Structures Intensify Economic and Opioid Stress

The conversation links job loss to loss of health insurance, making unemployment especially stressful for American families. Blanchflower also contrasts fragmented US medical records with national systems that can prevent patients from obtaining opioid prescriptions from multiple doctors.

  • Employment often determines US healthcare access
  • Job loss can create simultaneous income and medical insecurity
  • Unaffordable treatment leaves mental-health needs unmet
  • Fragmented records enable doctor shopping
  • National records can make prior prescription refusals visible

“you lose your job, you lose your healthcare.”

Barry Ritholtz · 32:25

“We don't have that here.”

Barry Ritholtz · 34:16
#healthcare#opioids#job loss#medical records
Explainer40:07

Why Financial-Crisis Recoveries Do Not Behave Like Normal Cycles

Blanchflower agrees that balance-sheet and financial crises produce slower GDP and wage recoveries than ordinary recessions. He argues that policymakers repeatedly forecast a return to normal, missed the structural break, and consequently overestimated how close economies were to full employment.

  • The 2008 shock was larger than many policymakers understood
  • Financial-crisis recoveries are prolonged and modest
  • Normal-cycle forecasts repeatedly proved too optimistic
  • Historical unemployment thresholds became unreliable

“It's the biggest era that policymakers have made. They didn't get it”

Danny Blanchflower · 40:54

“four percent unemployment is nowhere near full employment.”

Danny Blanchflower · 41:03
#financial crisis#recovery#structural break#monetary policy
Explainer44:27

Why Bank of England Rate Changes Hit Households So Quickly

The UK relies more heavily on variable-rate mortgages than the United States, where long-term fixed-rate loans are more common. Consequently, Bank of England rate changes can quickly alter household payments and disposable income, limiting how far rates can rise without damaging housing demand.

  • UK mortgage rates often track the central-bank rate closely
  • Rate cuts delivered immediate relief during the crisis
  • Rate increases rapidly reduce borrowers' disposable income
  • Mortgage structure changes monetary-policy transmission

“The second you start to raise rates, those mortgages are going to go up.”

Danny Blanchflower · 45:20

“You wipe out the housing market if you do that.”

Danny Blanchflower · 47:46
#mortgages#bank of england#housing#interest rates
Explainer56:51

How Global Competition Weakened Unions and Worker Security

Blanchflower argues that globalization made it harder for unions to secure higher wages and benefits because firms could be undercut in international markets. Declining union power then reinforced job insecurity, unstable employment, and weak pay.

  • Union gains can raise employer costs
  • Globally exposed firms face competitors with lower labor costs
  • Competitive pressure weakened union bargaining power
  • Reduced union strength increased worker insecurity

“Globalization made it very much harder for a union to raise the price.”

Danny Blanchflower · 57:18

“that's further made workers more jobs, more insecure, more unstable, and less well paid.”

Danny Blanchflower · 57:36
#unions#globalization#bargaining power#wages

Story· 2

Story54:32

The RBS Payment Failure That Threatened Global Financial Plumbing

Blanchflower identifies the failure of Royal Bank of Scotland as a pivotal and underappreciated moment in the financial crisis. When RBS could not make enormous payments, officials feared worldwide credit-card and cash-machine failures, prompting six central banks to cut rates together.

  • RBS was the world's largest bank by assets
  • The bank reported that it could not make critical payments
  • Officials feared failures across global payment systems
  • Six central banks coordinated an emergency rate cut

“there's a very good prospect that every credit card and cash machine in the world will fail.”

Danny Blanchflower · 55:08

“That was the day that everything collapsed.”

Danny Blanchflower · 55:37
#rbs#banking crisis#central banks#payments
Story1:05:28

Three Housing Ratios Made the Bubble Impossible to Ignore

Ritholtz explains how long-standing relationships between home prices and incomes, ownership and renting costs, and housing value and GDP all broke sharply before the crisis. Blanchflower confirms that UK house-price-to-earnings ratios showed the same extreme divergence while policymakers devised explanations for why the change was permanent.

  • Median home prices detached from median incomes
  • Ownership costs diverged from rents
  • Housing-stock value surged relative to GDP
  • UK house-price-to-earnings ratios reached historical extremes
  • Policymakers rationalized the break as a new normal

“my takeaway was either everybody's getting a giant raise or housing drops.”

Barry Ritholtz · 1:06:42

“spent an awful lot of time arguing why this time was different”

Danny Blanchflower · 1:07:21
#housing bubble#valuation#financial crisis#forecasting

Takeaway· 2

Takeaway11:11

The Missing Stimulus Was Construction Work, Not Temporary Tax Cuts

The discussion argues that post-crisis fiscal support in the United States was too small and poorly targeted. Blanchflower says a large infrastructure program could have absorbed construction workers displaced by the housing collapse and strengthened the labor-market recovery.

  • The housing crash displaced large numbers of construction workers
  • Temporary tax cuts provided limited structural repair
  • Infrastructure spending could match displaced skills to public needs
  • Insufficient public spending left employment below its earlier level

“The big thing that Cain's talked about that should have happened, and the big deal would have been an infrastructure spend”

Danny Blanchflower · 12:25

“It says the labor market hasn't recovered.”

Danny Blanchflower · 13:04
#stimulus#infrastructure#financial crisis#employment
Takeaway1:11:47

Thirty Years of Labor Economics Reveal How Little Workers Gained

Looking back across his career, Blanchflower says the most shocking lesson is how little conditions improved for the average person. He points to inequality, student debt, housing barriers, childcare costs, and delayed independence as evidence that economic success was distributed unevenly.

  • Aggregate progress concealed weak gains for ordinary workers
  • Global forces spread alongside inequality
  • Young adults struggle to leave home and buy housing
  • Student debt and childcare costs compound insecurity
  • Professional success is not representative of broad well-being

“how little improvement that I had seen for the average person.”

Danny Blanchflower · 1:12:12

“it's life's a struggle.”

Danny Blanchflower · 1:12:57
#inequality#living standards#young adults#labor economics