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John Montgomery03 November 2017

Bridgeway's John Montgomery Gives Away Half of Its Profits

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Myth Buster· 2

Myth Buster13:35

The Low-Volatility Anomaly That Changed Montgomery's Thinking

A purely risk-based theory suggests that lower-volatility stocks should produce lower long-term returns. Their historical outperformance contradicted that expectation and pushed Montgomery toward behavioral explanations for factor returns.

  • Value and small-company premiums can be framed as compensation for risk
  • Low-volatility stocks are less risky under the standard-deviation definition
  • Their stronger long-term performance conflicts with a simple risk-return relationship
  • The anomaly suggests investor behavior also drives returns

“The low volatility is less risk by definition and should do less well over the long term. But the reverse is true.”

John Montgomery · 14:35

“If that's true, something else must be driving these stocks. What is that? And I think that's behavioral finance.”

John Montgomery · 14:48
#low volatility#factor investing#risk#behavioral finance
Myth Buster23:24

An Expensive Market Can Keep Getting More Expensive

Montgomery distinguishes estimating valuation from successfully timing an exit. Historical valuation can indicate lower expected returns, but it cannot reliably identify the market's peak or the right moment to leave and re-enter.

  • High valuation and an actionable timing signal are different conclusions
  • Correctly identifying an expensive market can still lead to a costly early exit
  • Markets do not stop automatically when they reach fair value
  • A buy-and-hold posture avoids requiring two accurate timing decisions

“does that mean we should get out of the market? Should we time that somehow? And that's a very very different question”

John Montgomery · 23:53

“just because things are expensive doesn't mean that they won't get more expensive”

John Montgomery · 34:16
#valuation#market timing#buy and hold#risk

Hot Take· 1

Hot Take55:07

Making Day Trading Easier Is Not Investor Progress

Montgomery credits indexing, tax efficiency, the internet, and robo-advisors with reducing costs and improving research. He draws a line when technology makes impulsive trading easier, arguing that convenience can amplify harmful investor behavior rather than improve outcomes.

  • Indexing has significantly lowered investor costs
  • The internet transformed access to investment research
  • Robo-advice has useful applications
  • Frictionless day trading can worsen behavioral mistakes
  • ETF tradability carries consequences beyond convenience

“if you make it easier for somebody to day trade, that's how actually a bad thing.”

John Montgomery · 55:53

“We should be worried about being able to day trade UM E T S and the implications of that.”

John Montgomery · 56:03
#fintech#day trading#indexing#robo advisors

Explainer· 2

Explainer03:32

Why a Room Full of Smart Investors Can Still Underperform

Montgomery's first behavioral-finance insight came when most students in a Harvard investing class believed they could beat an exceptional record. In a highly skilled, competitive market, intelligence can cancel out because everyone is working with similar advantages, while overconfidence undermines discipline.

  • Most members of an elite class expected to outperform
  • Past academic success can work against investment discipline
  • Competition among skilled participants increases the importance of luck
  • Quantitative methods can reduce dependence on personal superiority

“What has worked for them getting them to a certain place in life doesn't always work in investments.”

John Montgomery · 05:03

“at that level where everybody is so skillful, luck becomes even more important.”

John Montgomery · 07:15
#overconfidence#behavioral finance#skill#investing
Explainer27:22

How Investors Lose a Third of Their Own Fund's Return

Montgomery describes the behavior gap as the loss caused by buying after strong returns and selling during fear. In one aggressive Bridgeway strategy, Morningstar's investor return was roughly two-thirds of the fund's total return over fifteen years, with compounding magnifying the long-term damage.

  • Investors chase rising funds and panic after declines
  • Investor return can trail the return of the fund they own
  • Compounding makes the long-run wealth gap much larger
  • Institutions also fire out-of-favor managers and hire recent winners
  • Knowing about the behavior is easier than resisting it

“a third of the value that we've created and that the economy has created gets washed down the toilet by when people are in and…”

John Montgomery · 28:40

“Actually doing it requires you to be comfortable when everybody is miserable”

John Montgomery · 31:26
#behavior gap#compounding#investor returns#market psychology

Story· 2

Story11:17

Why Montgomery Took 18 Months Off Before Founding Bridgeway

Instead of immediately switching jobs after reaching a wall in transportation engineering, Montgomery paused for intensive research. He modeled the decision on Houston mayor Bob Lanier, who took a year to study before each of four career transitions.

  • Montgomery researched quantitative methods before launching Bridgeway
  • He also wrote a detailed business plan and expanded his industry knowledge
  • Bob Lanier supplied a model for deliberate career transitions
  • The research period coincided with seminal work on value investing

“every time he switched to ears, he took a year off to study the heck out of the next thing that he was doing”

John Montgomery · 11:53

“I took a year and a half off before founding Bridgeway to do research”

John Montgomery · 11:14
#career change#research#entrepreneurship#bridgeway
Story46:28

Bridgeway's Mission to Reduce Violence in Central Africa

Bridgeway directs its philanthropic mission toward peacemaking, reconciliation, and ending genocide, with a focus on sub-Saharan Africa. Montgomery says work with local partners contributed to a measured reduction in violence connected to the Lord's Resistance Army, and staff later visited Rwanda and eastern Congo to deepen their understanding and partnerships.

  • Bridgeway donates toward a focused peace-building mission
  • Local partners are central to the work
  • An independent assessment found a reduction in conflict violence
  • Eastern Congo's use of rape as a weapon of war shaped the mission's urgency
  • Direct exposure helped employees understand their place in the wider world

“The core mission of Bridgeway is peacemaking, reckons, afiliation and ending genocide.”

John Montgomery · 46:52

“like you actually can make a difference, move the needle on this stuff.”

John Montgomery · 47:37
#peacemaking#africa#genocide prevention#social impact

Tool· 1

Tool54:07

Why Bridgeway Researchers Begin by Confessing Their Biases

Montgomery warns that numerical analysis does not make researchers objective. Bridgeway team members sometimes preface an idea by naming the personal bias that makes the idea appealing, allowing colleagues to evaluate the evidence with that influence visible.

  • Statistical work remains vulnerable to human bias
  • Believing yourself objective can make bias harder to detect
  • Researchers should disclose their predisposition toward an idea
  • A confessed bias does not invalidate a proposal but improves scrutiny

“We all think that because we're doing numbers and statistics that were objective. This book would say not so much.”

John Montgomery · 54:21

“we have something we call confessing our biases.”

John Montgomery · 54:45
#research bias#quantitative finance#self-awareness#decision-making

Takeaway· 2

Takeaway24:19

What the Great Depression Teaches About Leverage

Studying the Great Depression convinced Montgomery that the specific forms of risk change while the underlying nature of risk persists. Because severe drawdowns have happened, even moderate debt layered onto equities can force an investor out before recovery.

  • Extreme historical periods reveal risks hidden by normal markets
  • Downturns are inevitable but difficult to time
  • Leverage can convert a temporary drawdown into permanent ruin
  • The Nasdaq collapse showed that near-depression-scale declines were not ancient history

“The specifics of risk have changed.”

John Montgomery · 24:40

“If you've got debt on top of you know, buying stocks, it doesn't take much debt to completely blow you out”

John Montgomery · 26:00
#leverage#great depression#drawdowns#risk management
Takeaway41:06

Hire People Who Are Willing to Disagree With You

Montgomery argues that people naturally trust and recruit those who resemble them, creating intellectual silos. Bridgeway intentionally looks for different viewpoints and disagreement, which also contributed to demographic diversity without relying on quotas.

  • Comfort and familiarity create pressure toward homogeneous teams
  • Physical diversity can expand diversity of experience and perspective
  • Disagreement is treated as useful rather than disloyal
  • Different ideas help leaders escape their own silos

“That is a formula for disaster.”

John Montgomery · 41:38

“part of what we're trying to do is hire people intentionally that don't agree with us”

John Montgomery · 41:41
#diversity#hiring#groupthink#leadership