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24 November 2022

Boaz Weinstein on Investors' Unknown Risk

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Myth Buster· 2

Myth Buster16:25

“Don’t Fight the Fed” Is Not a Permanent Bullish Signal

Weinstein rejects the use of “don’t fight the Fed” as a slogan that always justifies being long risk assets. Applied consistently, the rule should also lead investors to reduce exposure when central banks tighten policy and sell assets.

  • The slogan became shorthand for permanent bullishness
  • Central-bank direction matters in both easing and tightening regimes
  • Investors should have reduced risk when the Fed committed to selling assets
  • Lessons learned during sustained quantitative easing may fail during tightening

“that psychology of don't fight the Fed, don't be short is, in my opinion, a lazy person's way of saying, let's always belong”

Boaz Weinstein · 16:52

“if you really believe and don't fight the Fed, how much of your risk did did you take down when the Fed said that they…”

Boaz Weinstein · 17:05
#fed policy#market psychology#risk management#qt
Myth Buster20:21

Why a Decade-Wide Credit Spread Did Not Mean Imminent Default

Weinstein challenged viral claims that Credit Suisse faced imminent bankruptcy merely because its credit spread had reached a decade high. He argued that the spread still represented a low implied probability and that historical-width claims were being stripped of pricing context to fuel alarm.

  • A decade-high spread does not by itself predict default
  • Large social accounts amplified nearly identical alarming claims
  • The absolute spread level still implied a low-probability event
  • Historical comparisons require payoff and probability context

“this sounds like scare mongering. It sounds like someone trying to make something of about it.”

Boaz Weinstein · 20:55

“this quote it's at decade a decade high, you know, can be used as fake news to say therefore it's going to default.”

Boaz Weinstein · 21:03
#credit suisse#cds#misinformation#default risk

Hot Take· 2

Hot Take13:22

Why an Orderly Selloff Offered No All-Clear Signal

Unlike crises followed by aggressive monetary rescue, this decline unfolded while the Federal Reserve was tightening and shrinking its balance sheet. Weinstein argues that no obvious savior or capitulation signal existed, leaving markets vulnerable to recurring concerns for quarters or years.

  • The market kept finding new reasons to sell
  • The Federal Reserve reinforced its tightening message
  • Quantitative tightening reduced the prospect of a rapid policy rescue
  • An orderly decline did not produce a decisive capitulation point

“we don't really know who the savior is”

Boaz Weinstein · 14:28

“we're going to be worried about some number of these things or new things for potentially quarters and maybe even years to come.”

Boaz Weinstein · 14:43
#federal reserve#quantitative tightening#capitulation#volatility
Hot Take28:45

Quantitative Tightening Could Keep Volatility Elevated for Years

Even after immediate crises fade, Weinstein expects the removal of central-bank assets to remain a persistent drag on markets. He views quantitative tightening as more consequential than merely ending quantitative easing because it actively reverses the prior liquidity regime.

  • The Federal Reserve still had trillions of dollars of assets to unwind
  • Balance-sheet reduction creates a continuing market headwind
  • Future volatility may remain substantially higher than in the prior decade
  • Quantitative tightening is the opposite of quantitative easing, not simply its absence

“this is going to be a period of much higher volatility than than the last decade was.”

Boaz Weinstein · 29:23

“the undoing of QUI, which is more than just no qui, it's the opposite of QUI.”

Boaz Weinstein · 29:46
#quantitative tightening#volatility#central banks#liquidity

Explainer· 3

Explainer04:35

Why This Bear Market Was Unlike a Bolt From the Blue

Weinstein contrasts sudden shocks such as 9/11 and COVID with a decline that was extensively telegraphed through persistent inflation and the reversal of a forty-year bond bull market. Traditional 60/40 portfolios failed because Treasuries fell alongside risk assets rather than cushioning them.

  • Inflation risk developed gradually rather than arriving without warning
  • Investors had time to reconsider their exposures
  • Treasuries became a source of losses instead of portfolio protection
  • Several conflicting macro problems made the risk environment unusually complex

“the sixty forty plans that we're using treasuries as there, you know, as their antidote to a sell off. It turns out the treasuries were…”

Boaz Weinstein · 05:32

“the number of balls in the air enormous in terms of things non unknowns that could really cause more than a sell off, but more…”

Boaz Weinstein · 06:02
#bear market#inflation#bonds#60-40 portfolio
Explainer06:10

How Pervasive Uncertainty Creates Indiscriminate Selling

Known problems usually suggest an immediate response, such as reducing airline exposure after a travel shock. In this environment, geopolitical, Chinese economic, and recession risks overlapped, prompting investors to reduce whatever positions they already held and creating distortions between genuinely risky and relatively safe assets.

  • Known unknowns allow investors to identify directly exposed sectors
  • Overlapping risks make the correct defensive action less obvious
  • Investors often sell positions they can readily unwind
  • Indiscriminate de-risking can create relative-value opportunities

“people just feel risk all over. They felt it now for ten months, and they're de risking the things that are in their book.”

Boaz Weinstein · 07:22

“that's created some interesting distortions, interesting opportunities.”

Boaz Weinstein · 07:35
#uncertainty#de-risking#geopolitics#credit
Explainer22:18

Why Equity Puts and VIX Calls Failed as 2022 Insurance

Equity protection was already expensive near the market peak because post-COVID demand for options kept implied volatility elevated. Investors therefore paid high premiums for relatively weak payouts, while credit spreads began near pre-COVID lows and had much more room to widen.

  • Tail hedges must be reliable because portfolios depend on them during crises
  • The short-volatility crowd was damaged during the COVID shock
  • Meme-stock and technology-option demand helped keep volatility elevated
  • High implied volatility reduced the payoff available for a fixed premium
  • Credit protection entered the year at more attractive levels

“tailhedges have to be reliable because they serve a greater purpose.”

Boaz Weinstein · 22:47

“tail protection through equity options was incredibly expensive and it has served investors very poorly.”

Boaz Weinstein · 24:24
#vix#options#tail hedging#credit spreads

Takeaway· 1

Takeaway30:18

Why Precise Recession Forecasts Were Folly

Weinstein declines to offer a confident GDP or recession forecast because the number of interacting uncertainties makes precision misleading. His practical conclusion is that investors should recognize the market regime has changed rather than assume one favorable inflation print will restore the previous bull market.

  • Bank recession forecasts changed rapidly as conditions deteriorated
  • Multiple interacting risks make precise macro forecasts unreliable
  • A softer inflation reading would not automatically remove structural headwinds
  • Investors had not fully adjusted to the changed market regime

“these kinds of forecasts are are really folly.”

Boaz Weinstein · 30:29

“Literally we're standing in a thick fog trying to like play tennis and we can't even see the ball.”

Boaz Weinstein · 30:33
#recession#forecasting#uncertainty#market regime